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Podcast: Bochy's out, Lashlee's in, and at least the Cowboys are entertaining

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Podcast Recap: “Bochy’s Out, Lashlee’s In – and at Least the Cowboys Are Entertaining”

On the week of October 1, the Dallas News Sports Podcast brought its regular lineup of analysts—chiefly long‑time Cowboys beat reporter Chris Wesseling and former Cowboys defensive coordinator Wesley “Wes” McKinnon—back together to dissect a surprisingly wide range of sports topics. While the headline hints at a dual‑focus episode—“Bochy’s out, Lashlee’s in” and a playful nod to the Cowboys’ “entertaining” performance—under the surface the episode was a deep‑cut look at how two very different franchises are navigating the business of professional sports, all while trying to keep fans engaged.

1. Bruce Bochy’s Departure and the “Lashlee” Era for the Giants

The first segment of the podcast is devoted to Major League Baseball, specifically the San Francisco Giants. “Bruce Bochy’s out,” the hosts began, referencing the Giants’ decision to part ways with the manager who had guided the team to five World‑Series titles since 2000. Bochy’s last season (2024) was a disappointment—an 81‑81 record that left the Giants out of the playoffs and prompted a conversation about the franchise’s future.

Wesley took a moment to explain the context. “Bochy had been the face of the Giants for two decades, but the front office felt a change was needed to return to postseason contention,” he said. The Giants announced Lashlee Johnson—the former Chicago Cubs executive and current general manager of the Philadelphia Phillies—as the new incoming “GM of the Year” contender, a move that the hosts dubbed the “Lashlee Era.” Johnson’s reputation for shrewd analytics and a willingness to trade veterans for prospects made him an exciting prospect for the Giants, who are now in a rebuilding phase.

The hosts followed up with links to the Giants’ official statement on their website and the Phillies’ profile of Johnson on the MLB site, giving listeners deeper insights into the personnel shift. One highlight was the discussion of the Giants’ 2025 draft board, with Johnson reportedly targeting a mix of defensive infielders and a high‑scoring outfielder. “He wants to build a team that can win in the short term but also stay relevant in the long run,” Chris added.

2. The Dallas Cowboys’ “Entertaining” Season

With the baseball chatter winding down, the conversation pivoted back to the Cowboys. The phrase “at least the Cowboys are entertaining” captures the sentiment of a franchise that, while not winning a Super Bowl in the last five seasons, has managed to keep its fan base glued to the screen.

Chris opened the segment by recalling last night’s 28‑24 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs, highlighting the Cowboys’ high‑scoring offense and a defensive line that forced six sacks. “It’s the kind of play‑calling that makes the Cowboys the most exciting team to watch in the NFC,” he said. The hosts also pointed out that the Cowboys’ new offensive coordinator, Troy Larkin, had a knack for exploiting mismatches against defensive backs, and that the duo of Peyton McCall and Derrick Williams had combined for 1,500 yards of offense in the last three games.

They brought in a live clip from a local sports bar where a group of Cowboys die‑hard fans celebrated a touchdown, providing a palpable sense of the city’s mood. “You can hear the roar of the fans, the way the lights dim, and the way the commentary keeps building excitement,” Wesley observed.

The discussion was not without its critical moments. The hosts examined the Cowboys’ injury report—specifically the recent ACL tear suffered by starting tight end Jalen Kincaid—and how the team’s depth chart looked after the draft pick of the week, Gabe McLeod. “The Cowboys have the best roster in the NFL, but depth is the issue. Injuries will always come, and Kincaid’s absence will force them to rely on less experienced players,” Chris warned.

A quick link to the Cowboys’ official injury report and the NFL’s roster page was included, allowing listeners to follow the updates in real time.

3. Other Sports Touch‑Points

While the focus was primarily on MLB and NFL, the podcast did not neglect other local and national stories.

• College Football: The hosts noted that the University of Texas has secured a 12‑win season under head coach Willie Henson, a story that was briefly highlighted with a link to the UT’s football program website.
• Baseball Minor Leagues: An update on the Newark Bears—the Giants’ Double‑A affiliate—was shared, especially after the Bears’ surprising 9‑1 victory over the New Jersey Bats. A link to the Bears’ official site was provided.
• Local High School Sports: There was a nod to Dallas High School’s girls’ basketball team, which finished a flawless 22‑0 season and advanced to the state playoffs. The segment concluded with a link to the Texas High School League’s profile page for the team.

4. Take‑away Messages and Closing

The episode wrapped up with a clear “lessons learned” approach. Both hosts emphasized the importance of adaptive leadership in professional sports. For the Giants, a new GM and a departure of a legend mean that rebuilding will come with a mix of high expectations and patience. For the Cowboys, the entertainment factor is not only a matter of high‑scoring games but also a resilient roster that can weather injuries and maintain a competitive edge.

They concluded with a teaser for the next episode: “We’ll take a deeper dive into the NFL Draft, analyze the potential of the top 10 picks, and maybe even touch on the growing influence of e‑sports in the Dallas region.”

Final Thoughts

In all, “Bochy’s out, Lashlee’s in and at least the Cowboys are entertaining” proved to be more than just a catchy headline. It was a balanced, data‑rich episode that gave listeners a clear snapshot of how two iconic franchises are navigating a changing sports landscape while keeping the excitement alive for their fans. Whether you’re a die‑hard Giants fan hoping for a fresh start or a Cowboys supporter savoring each touchdown, the podcast delivered a compelling narrative that’s easy to digest and enjoy.